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2013 Hot Springs Vanguard for $2500 -- Can This Possibly Be Legit?

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lderochi:
Hi,

Former hot tub owner who had to give it up due to an employment relocation, and I've been poking around looking for used or floor models for the new house. I'm trying to not spend too much, as I may have to move again in the next few years. Anyway, today I found this ebay listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOT-SPRING-VANGUARD-HOT-TUB-WSALTWATER-SYSTEM-MINT-CONDITION-/271414194483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f318bf133

I've emailed the owner and he says it's a 2013 model, and he will ship it free. It's tempting, even without the ability to examine in advance. But I cannot believe somebody is selling a 2013 Vanguard PLUS shipping for $2500. I mean, I just can't imagine how that's feasible. Thoughts? I would be protected by the ebay guarantee if it ends up being a complete piece of crap, but still.

Isaac-1:
I would say it is a scam, probably lifted the photo from a completed auction.  It is a new ebay user (account created last week) with 0 feedback, also he is asking you to contact him outside of ebay's message system before bidding.

Each of the above is a warning sign, any one of them should make you cautious, but sometimes they are worth the risk.  I bought my HS Jetsetter off ebay for $1,000from a 0 feedback account, but it was a cash on pickup deal (met half way 100 miles away in a parking lot, he was the guy with the hot tub on a trailer ), but in my case I thought it worth the risk as 1, he had relisted and lowered the starting bid price by $300 after it did not sell the first time around, and secondly while he did have 0 feedbacks, the account was 3 years old, most scammers would not wait that long.

p.s. at a minimum I doubt those photos are new, look at all the leaves on the ground, those pictures were likely taken months ago, also note the block of text giving the email address is really a graphic probably done this way to get around ebay auto censor system on giving out email addresses outside of ebays messaging system


p.p.s. Yep, scam, a little google searching found an auction archive with those same photos used on a 2011 HS Vanguard also in VA with a buy it now of $6150 from last fall.  Punctuation was changed a little along with the year, but both titles had Vanguard and WSALTWATER SYSTEM in them

Ryan VSO:
your purchase of 100 % covered by ebay and paypal , the wort thing that happen is they will credit you back once you fill out a claim .

Isaac-1:
That coverage only applies if you work within the ebay system, going with an outside contact email is likely the first step in getting you outside the ebay system.

Ryan VSO:
if he makes the pruchase through ebay he is covered , you can exchange emails through ebay ... just makesure you pay via paypal and that you purchase it on ebay .

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