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Ryan VSO:

--- Quote from: vangoghsear on August 21, 2013, 12:38:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: Vortex Spas Canada on August 19, 2013, 08:10:15 pm ---From what we have tested , when its below -10 degress celcius outside our perimeter insulation is drasticly more efficient . You are right to say that full foam is a little bit more efficient when its above -10 outside but just the fact to not see whats going on with your plumbing, the fact that a perimeter insulation reduce the hearing of the pump noise is 2 good reasons for me to choose that insulation indtead of foam . When you choose the right components and dont insert cheap material in your spa you should not have any problem with a perimeter insulation . Have you experienced any issue wihthat type of insulation?

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Is this with your Hybrid Heatpump option, or conventional resistance heat element?  I've been wondering if a spa manufacturer would employ heatpump technology in their water heater.  It must be air to water, I assume there must be a blending of cabinet and outside air for this to work best.  Then the heatpump can move heat from cabinet air to the water when it is cold out and discharge heat to outside air when cooling the water in high temperature days.  Or does it have a remote condenser?  I would love to see a diagram of how this works.

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The heatpump dont work below 0 degrees , all the testing have been made with a normal gecko 4kw heater

vangoghsear:

--- Quote from: Vortex Spas Canada on August 21, 2013, 12:50:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: vangoghsear on August 21, 2013, 12:38:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: Vortex Spas Canada on August 19, 2013, 08:10:15 pm ---From what we have tested , when its below -10 degress celcius outside our perimeter insulation is drasticly more efficient . You are right to say that full foam is a little bit more efficient when its above -10 outside but just the fact to not see whats going on with your plumbing, the fact that a perimeter insulation reduce the hearing of the pump noise is 2 good reasons for me to choose that insulation indtead of foam . When you choose the right components and dont insert cheap material in your spa you should not have any problem with a perimeter insulation . Have you experienced any issue wihthat type of insulation?

--- End quote ---
Is this with your Hybrid Heatpump option, or conventional resistance heat element?  I've been wondering if a spa manufacturer would employ heatpump technology in their water heater.  It must be air to water, I assume there must be a blending of cabinet and outside air for this to work best.  Then the heatpump can move heat from cabinet air to the water when it is cold out and discharge heat to outside air when cooling the water in high temperature days.  Or does it have a remote condenser?  I would love to see a diagram of how this works.

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The heatpump dont work below 0 degrees , all the testing have been made with a normal gecko 4kw heater

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That's kind of what I thought.  I guess that's why you have to limit the savings with Heatpump to 50%.  Heatpump efficiency drops as ambient temps go down.  But HP operation down to 0 deg ('C' I assume) is not too bad, most heatpumps cut out at 40 deg F.

Does it use a remote condenser with the Hybrid Heatpump?

Spoiledrotten:
I have the HS Envoy. Love it!

You can see it here.http://www.whatsthebest-hottub.com/forum/index.php/topic,16194.0.html

TwinCitiesHotSpring:
wow first time in this thread, I needed a good laugh today....btw what the h*ll is a Vortex spa?

Tman122:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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