General > Beating a dead horse
VORTEX Spas from Canada
Tman122:
--- Quote from: montanabeefy1 on December 20, 2013, 09:35:35 pm ---Even if they are just like any other spa company or even a copy cat company, WHO CARES?
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So I got nothing to contribute huh?
So of us have experience in hundreds of brands and have seen as many come and go.
And I'm glad you feel like you saved an unbelievable amount of money.
Ryan VSO:
--- Quote from: rosewoodsteel on December 20, 2013, 07:04:50 pm ---Jim,
What is your opinion of Aristech acrylics?
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Aristech acrylic buy their raw materials from lucite acrylic if that give you an idea. Whats expensive is the resin . I went to the manufscture myself and yes vortex put every shell in a controlled oven to get rid of the humidity. We are few to offer a non pro-rated shell warranty so we make sure to not have to replace them too often :)
Jacuzzi Jim:
You know how many shells and or structures we have replaced in the 13 years of selling spa's, Artesian, Jacuzzi, Cal-spa and Freeflow?
One spa actually enough said, and that was a freeflow roto-mold because the lady was 300+ lbs wearing on it getting in and out. Shell failures in the world of "high end" or low end for the most part spa's is almost non existent. I will comment on your jet warranty, be it waterway or whatever you use there are only so many, 5 years is very good, for what a jet cost a dealer why not. Jets over the years have gotten better and better so that's a plus for everyone.
I looked at your website from top to btm, sure there is some information there but there is nothing that really convinced me your spa is any better than anyone else's in the middle range. It's says its a hybrid heater pump but it doesn't say how it does it, best guess is it's what cal-spa did with the plastic union with finger type things to increase friction as water passes by. It says the spa adjust to different climates but that's BS because a spa really can't do that. It also says it adjust to account for different power demands, which is nothing but being able to adjust filter cycles, pretty much all spas do that to some extent. The heater info is all BS as most heaters really fail from either one electrical or 2 really bad water. Not because of the heater tube itself not being high grade 616 stainless or whatever that number is.. Lets talk ultra violet sanitation or mineral sticks again just another way to do it, it's not ground breaking stuff many are doing it.. Tell me I am wrong!
Btm line is I could and others can pick your spa and the marketing BS apart and call it for what it is BS, but honestly any really good sales guy can pick his competitor apart. Really it's all marketing with every spa company, so I can't fault you on that some just have done it longer and better than most, Sure your gonna sell your couple hundred spa's a year and I hope you make a profit. And again I am sure you build a decent spa, but you are riding on the backs of what many other mnfgs already do and have so for a long time... And FWIW I have heard of a lot of spa's, I have never heard of yours and supposedly you have an outlet of some sorts in BC? I am an hour away from there and we get many a Canadians down here looking at our spa's to take back, I have yet to have one mention vortex. Be that as it may I wish you luck..
Erou:
Hi , I Am from Canada and I have purchased the Palladium from Vortex Spas which I have received 1 month ago . I first came to this forum as I was searching for reviews and was worried when I saw montana review but the rep on the phone explained me that this story was true and that vortex now crate their hot tub for the delivery . I was also worried about the delivery time but they now guarantee it in 6 weeks and they have a 60 day no risk money back guarantee which looked fine on paper.
The hot tub arrived on the 5 th week , the shipping company made an appointment and I paid 175 $ in extra to bring it into my backyard . I have 5 kids and we wanted at least a 9 person hot tub . The palladium is very well designed and just like montana said , the jets massage is above anything else experimented in other brand like arctic , jacuzzi or dynasty. It does come fully loaded with 92 water jets ( no air jets which is very nice ) , 3 pumps and 1 circulation pump that is also use for the 'laminar jets' . I took the full light jet package and I dont regret to have paid for it .The rep told me that they were giving away the ''in.clear sanitation system which require maintenance once every 6 months , I was sceptic about it and ask them if I could go back to a regular chemical maintenance if I dont like it and they said yes so I said fine we will take it . I followed the instructions and since then I have not made any maintenance on my tub so I really enjoy it.
We had a flo error code when we first started the tub so we called vortex and they fixed the problem over the phone .. they changed the LL number which I have no idea whats for but it worked.
We went to many dealers , each of them was saying bad things about other dealers instead of promoting their brand so we decided to go online just for fun and found that company . We paid 10k instead of 14-15k at our local dealer , this is a huge price difference for a big family like us and even if we respect our local dealers and understand they need more margin to survive we decided to use that money to buy other stuff .
I will keep you posted if anything wrong happen but so far so good .
Ryan VSO:
--- Quote from: Jacuzzi Jim on December 20, 2013, 11:49:42 pm --- You know how many shells and or structures we have replaced in the 13 years of selling spa's, Artesian, Jacuzzi, Cal-spa and Freeflow?
One spa actually enough said, and that was a freeflow roto-mold because the lady was 300+ lbs wearing on it getting in and out. Shell failures in the world of "high end" or low end for the most part spa's is almost non existent. I will comment on your jet warranty, be it waterway or whatever you use there are only so many, 5 years is very good, for what a jet cost a dealer why not. Jets over the years have gotten better and better so that's a plus for everyone.
I looked at your website from top to btm, sure there is some information there but there is nothing that really convinced me your spa is any better than anyone else's in the middle range. It's says its a hybrid heater pump but it doesn't say how it does it, best guess is it's what cal-spa did with the plastic union with finger type things to increase friction as water passes by. It says the spa adjust to different climates but that's BS because a spa really can't do that. It also says it adjust to account for different power demands, which is nothing but being able to adjust filter cycles, pretty much all spas do that to some extent. The heater info is all BS as most heaters really fail from either one electrical or 2 really bad water. Not because of the heater tube itself not being high grade 616 stainless or whatever that number is.. Lets talk ultra violet sanitation or mineral sticks again just another way to do it, it's not ground breaking stuff many are doing it.. Tell me I am wrong!
Btm line is I could and others can pick your spa and the marketing BS apart and call it for what it is BS, but honestly any really good sales guy can pick his competitor apart. Really it's all marketing with every spa company, so I can't fault you on that some just have done it longer and better than most, Sure your gonna sell your couple hundred spa's a year and I hope you make a profit. And again I am sure you build a decent spa, but you are riding on the backs of what many other mnfgs already do and have so for a long time... And FWIW I have heard of a lot of spa's, I have never heard of yours and supposedly you have an outlet of some sorts in BC? I am an hour away from there and we get many a Canadians down here looking at our spa's to take back, I have yet to have one mention vortex. Be that as it may I wish you luck..
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We dont plan to land a spa on the moon :p we have the opportunity to offer a product that can easily be compared to those big brand but at a lower cost , its a win-win between us and the custumer.
If you ask anyone in Australia or in NZ about vortex they will tell you that they are the biggest . We outsale jacuzzi and hot spring by far and we are actually selling our product at a higher price than them. World doesnt stop in north america mate you have to consider that jacuzzi is doing less than us everywhere else then in north america and there must be a reason for this . We just landed some containers in vancouver , if you wish to havea look at one of our unit so you can actually have a reason to post here I will set you up
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