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60 amp Breakers
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johnnythunders:
I think I Just got the Electrical parts that i need.It seems Cutler-Hammer makes a 60 amps breaker and box set ,its called the HOT TUB PANEL with 60 AMP ground fault breaker all in one box and I needed a 60 amp for the box inside too.Cost $218 and I know I will need copper cable but will wait till my friend comes over to see how much we will need when he installs it.Was going to go and see if homedepot or Lowes had them but Jacuzzi says use Cutler-Hammer breakers...Anything else that i am missing that the good people of this board can tell me that i might also need.Johnny Thunders :-/
Wisoki:
Jacuzzi sells Square D QO breakers to their dealers, Hmm that's odd that they would recommend Cuttler Hammer to a consumer. None the less, $218 is a bit high. You should be able to get a Sqare D QO gfci w/ enclosure "box" for about 130 bucks.
johnnythunders:
well I went to Jacuzzi's web site and it says use Square D or Cuttler Hammer breakers.I called around and everyone was out of stock or they don't sell 60 amps.So i guess the electric Supply store charged me a bit more money for two 60 amps and GFCI box.Hope Cuttler-Hammer is a good brand that will not shut off all the time..........Johnny Thunders ;)
Brewman:
Cutler Hammer makes really good quality breakers, I'd stick with that brand or SquareD QO series.
You probably know this, but the breaker you buy for your inside electrical panel does not need to be GFI'd.
Just be sure to check which brand of breaker your inside panel needs.
In order to be of more help with your wiring, you need to tell us what your plan is for the wiring. What kind of wire are you running from your main panel to your spa panel? Then you need to plan the run from your spa panel to the spa itself. In addition to the wire itself, you may need conduit and the related fittings like elbows, hangers, pvc cement, etc.....
Be very careful when you are installing the breaker in your main panel. Even if you shut off the main, there could be live spots in the panel upstream from the main shutoff. My panel is this way.
Electro:
Brewman indicated the breaker you buy for your inside electrical panel does not need to have GFCI protection, when the outside subpanel has an appropriate GFCI-type breaker for the spa.
In this case, the inside breaker definitely should not be GFCI-protected. It is allowed, but it is not required and it increases the likelihood of that circuit breaker tripping, due to small differences (nominally 5 milliamps) between the "hot" and "neutral" conductors. This can more readily occur with longer wire lengths and exposure to outdoor and damp conditions, especially where the conductors supply modern nonlinear loads, e.g. electronic controls, fluorescent lights, and power supplies, or are physically near to devices that have a strong unshielded magnetic field.
Also, you should know that improper installation of GFCI devices by electricians and novices, with improperly trimmed wire ends, improperly tightened fasteners and without appropriate protection from moisture greatly increase or directly cause the GFCI to trip. As a consequence of this, some folks who do not recognize the cause may believe that their GFCI is not working correctly when it really is and is protecting them from harm.
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