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Spatech_tuo:

--- Quote from: smackman on May 01, 2012, 03:48:12 pm ---
I have the big pump; I would save approx $1.13 a day or approx. $34 dollars a month or $407 dollars a year running 6 hours not 24

IF my math is right, that is a fairly big savings. I would rather have the big pump/motor and move my water in 6 hours that a small pump/motor that has to run 24/7 to achieve the same results.

Sometimes bigger is better in the long haul.  ;D

Also, I do not see where I had the economical statement in bold but I am almost 55. HAHA

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No one is saying your pump should be run 24/7 so I don't agree with how you are calculating savings as if you're only using yours 1/4 of the time of a 24/7 circ pump. You are running your pump the required time and since you're moving more water you only need to run it 6 hrs. The circulation pumps that run 24/7 run that long because they move less water but they are very energy efficient and use far less energy per hour. You'd have to compare the energy you use in 6 hrs vs the energy one of the 24/7 pumps use in 24 hours if you wanted to see how much more or less filtering is costing you vs that system.

smackman:

--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on May 01, 2012, 05:39:16 pm ---
--- Quote from: smackman on May 01, 2012, 03:48:12 pm ---
I have the big pump; I would save approx $1.13 a day or approx. $34 dollars a month or $407 dollars a year running 6 hours not 24

IF my math is right, that is a fairly big savings. I would rather have the big pump/motor and move my water in 6 hours that a small pump/motor that has to run 24/7 to achieve the same results.

Sometimes bigger is better in the long haul.  ;D

Also, I do not see where I had the economical statement in bold but I am almost 55. HAHA

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No one is saying your pump should be run 24/7 so I don't agree with how you are calculating savings as if you're only using yours 1/4 of the time of a 24/7 circ pump. You are running your pump the required time and since you're moving more water you only need to run it 6 hrs. The circulation pumps that run 24/7 run that long because they move less water but they are very energy efficient and use far less energy per hour. You'd have to compare the energy you use in 6 hrs vs the energy one of the 24/7 pumps use in 24 hours if you wanted to see how much more or less filtering is costing you vs that system.

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I can but in the real world that does not apply to me and my Hot Tub. That is all I was saying.

smackman:

--- Quote from: TwinCitiesHotSpring on May 01, 2012, 05:01:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: smackman on May 01, 2012, 03:48:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: TwinCitiesHotSpring on May 01, 2012, 02:44:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: smackman on May 01, 2012, 01:57:43 pm ---My circulation pump is separate from the jet pumps. I think it would not be economical to run a 400-500 gallon Hot Tub 24 hours a day. A pool only requires that water be turned over once daily in most circumstances; I owned a 18000 gallon above ground pool for years. It took way more Maintenance than a Hot Tub especially A Jacuzzi machine like I own. ;)

Also, not only is my circulation pump designed to be energy efficient due to heat transfer but my Jet Motors are more energy efficient than the Circulation pump. It is a freaking machine.

Sometimes Individuals make it way to complicated with the maintenance of a Hot Tub.

My Jacuzzi J 465 is basically Maintenance free after initial water balancing. It basically self cleans. I use to deal with a "scum line" but HTH Enzyme Cleaner is the answer to that; works great.

Now Jacuzzi has a feature built in the J 1000 controller called "Summer Logic". If the water temp. is higher than 95 F and rises 2 degrees above the set temperature, it goes into "Summer Logic" that keeps the circulation pump off except for the 2 hours it automatically runs from 9 - 11 AM.

This can cause me issues in the summer time because my Hot Tub Temperature will stay above 95 for days. We like 101. We use our Hot Tub daily for 20 - 30 minutes.

 Due to our Hot Climate in the Summer, It will stay above 95 for days. I cheat the system and get the set point at the current temp so my circulation pump will do its job.  Summer logic can be a pain in the rear but the flip side is how well my Jacuzzi J 465 is insulated.

They say it is a safety issue; I guess heat for a extended period of time on the pump....

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regarding your statement in bold....too operate a low watt circ. pump on a 500 gal vista I have in my showroom it costs .45 cents per hour....too run a 2.5hp (most common size on bigger spas) on low speed to circulate it costs 6.3 cents per hour....so based on 6 hours of circulation your looking at 37.8 cents....while the 24hr circ. pump uses 10.8 cents per 24hrs

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I have the big pump; I would save approx $1.13 a day or approx. $34 dollars a month or $407 dollars a year running 6 hours not 24

IF my math is right, that is a fairly big savings. I would rather have the big pump/motor and move my water in 6 hours that a small pump/motor that has to run 24/7 to achieve the same results.

Sometimes bigger is better in the long haul.  ;D

Also, I do not see where I had the economical statement in bold but I am almost 55. HAHA

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I come here to help people not argue....your limited vague experience with 1 brand of hottub = pointless argument...partly my fault attempting a technical conversation with someone who does not have any experience in this industry....good luck with your tub and good day

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Wow; I am not out to argue by no means. I was just given input concerning motors, based on, HP,motor duty cycle, current draw etc.

 Have a wonderful Day. I apologize for offending you.

Spatech_tuo:
I'll delete my response. When people start using degrees and life experience to trump spa professionals work experience even though their spa experience is measured in weeks or months and limited to what is in their back yard I prefer to just smile and move on.

smackman:
I guess I do not know what I said so wrong. I will  let the experts only comment.

All I commented on was Electrical of any magnitude. I will be a reader and only ask questions.

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