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Question for Jacuzzi Experts
smackman:
--- Quote from: TwinCitiesHotSpring on May 01, 2012, 02:44:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: smackman on May 01, 2012, 01:57:43 pm ---My circulation pump is separate from the jet pumps. I think it would not be economical to run a 400-500 gallon Hot Tub 24 hours a day. A pool only requires that water be turned over once daily in most circumstances; I owned a 18000 gallon above ground pool for years. It took way more Maintenance than a Hot Tub especially A Jacuzzi machine like I own. ;)
Also, not only is my circulation pump designed to be energy efficient due to heat transfer but my Jet Motors are more energy efficient than the Circulation pump. It is a freaking machine.
Sometimes Individuals make it way to complicated with the maintenance of a Hot Tub.
My Jacuzzi J 465 is basically Maintenance free after initial water balancing. It basically self cleans. I use to deal with a "scum line" but HTH Enzyme Cleaner is the answer to that; works great.
Now Jacuzzi has a feature built in the J 1000 controller called "Summer Logic". If the water temp. is higher than 95 F and rises 2 degrees above the set temperature, it goes into "Summer Logic" that keeps the circulation pump off except for the 2 hours it automatically runs from 9 - 11 AM.
This can cause me issues in the summer time because my Hot Tub Temperature will stay above 95 for days. We like 101. We use our Hot Tub daily for 20 - 30 minutes.
Due to our Hot Climate in the Summer, It will stay above 95 for days. I cheat the system and get the set point at the current temp so my circulation pump will do its job. Summer logic can be a pain in the rear but the flip side is how well my Jacuzzi J 465 is insulated.
They say it is a safety issue; I guess heat for a extended period of time on the pump....
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regarding your statement in bold....too operate a low watt circ. pump on a 500 gal vista I have in my showroom it costs .45 cents per hour....too run a 2.5hp (most common size on bigger spas) on low speed to circulate it costs 6.3 cents per hour....so based on 6 hours of circulation your looking at 37.8 cents....while the 24hr circ. pump uses 10.8 cents per 24hrs
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I have the big pump; I would save approx $1.13 a day or approx. $34 dollars a month or $407 dollars a year running 6 hours not 24
IF my math is right, that is a fairly big savings. I would rather have the big pump/motor and move my water in 6 hours that a small pump/motor that has to run 24/7 to achieve the same results.
Sometimes bigger is better in the long haul. ;D
Also, I do not see where I had the economical statement in bold but I am almost 55. HAHA
SerjicalStrike:
--- Quote from: Jacuzzi Jim on May 01, 2012, 02:06:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: SerjicalStrike on May 01, 2012, 10:33:03 am ---
--- Quote from: Jacuzzi Jim on April 30, 2012, 06:39:58 pm --- On a side note, why hasn't anybody else done the 100% no by-pass filtration? (maybe they have) You would think, if it's so great why don't more manufacturers do it?? I will admit it is a great selling tool just strange HS is the only.
Just curious..
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There is no bypass on the Sundance filtration system. The filter pump always pulls through the filter.
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So your saying the sundance has no suctions in the foot well? Optima should have 3
The circ pump yes, but not the main pumps. Pump one will have a suction as well with a check valve same as Jacuzzi.
99.9% sure
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Pump 1 has 1 suction in the footwell and one underneath the filter in the filter area
Pump 2 has 2 suctions in the footwell
The filtering pump only pulls through the filter
The filtration system has no bypass. It only pulls through the filter. The 2 main pumps are not tied into the filtration system at all, thus filtration is never bypassed. Don't you just love semantics? ;)
bajabill:
what does a filter do? Remove solids?? anything else?
smackman:
Think of a Filter in your Air Conditioned that catch's air borne continents; A Hot tub filter will filter contaminants, soap debris etc to the micron it is capable of. It is similar to what a Home Water Filter does.
TwinCitiesHotSpring:
--- Quote from: smackman on May 01, 2012, 03:48:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: TwinCitiesHotSpring on May 01, 2012, 02:44:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: smackman on May 01, 2012, 01:57:43 pm ---My circulation pump is separate from the jet pumps. I think it would not be economical to run a 400-500 gallon Hot Tub 24 hours a day. A pool only requires that water be turned over once daily in most circumstances; I owned a 18000 gallon above ground pool for years. It took way more Maintenance than a Hot Tub especially A Jacuzzi machine like I own. ;)
Also, not only is my circulation pump designed to be energy efficient due to heat transfer but my Jet Motors are more energy efficient than the Circulation pump. It is a freaking machine.
Sometimes Individuals make it way to complicated with the maintenance of a Hot Tub.
My Jacuzzi J 465 is basically Maintenance free after initial water balancing. It basically self cleans. I use to deal with a "scum line" but HTH Enzyme Cleaner is the answer to that; works great.
Now Jacuzzi has a feature built in the J 1000 controller called "Summer Logic". If the water temp. is higher than 95 F and rises 2 degrees above the set temperature, it goes into "Summer Logic" that keeps the circulation pump off except for the 2 hours it automatically runs from 9 - 11 AM.
This can cause me issues in the summer time because my Hot Tub Temperature will stay above 95 for days. We like 101. We use our Hot Tub daily for 20 - 30 minutes.
Due to our Hot Climate in the Summer, It will stay above 95 for days. I cheat the system and get the set point at the current temp so my circulation pump will do its job. Summer logic can be a pain in the rear but the flip side is how well my Jacuzzi J 465 is insulated.
They say it is a safety issue; I guess heat for a extended period of time on the pump....
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regarding your statement in bold....too operate a low watt circ. pump on a 500 gal vista I have in my showroom it costs .45 cents per hour....too run a 2.5hp (most common size on bigger spas) on low speed to circulate it costs 6.3 cents per hour....so based on 6 hours of circulation your looking at 37.8 cents....while the 24hr circ. pump uses 10.8 cents per 24hrs
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I have the big pump; I would save approx $1.13 a day or approx. $34 dollars a month or $407 dollars a year running 6 hours not 24
IF my math is right, that is a fairly big savings. I would rather have the big pump/motor and move my water in 6 hours that a small pump/motor that has to run 24/7 to achieve the same results.
Sometimes bigger is better in the long haul. ;D
Also, I do not see where I had the economical statement in bold but I am almost 55. HAHA
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I come here to help people not argue....your limited vague experience with 1 brand of hottub = pointless argument...partly my fault attempting a technical conversation with someone who does not have any experience in this industry....good luck with your tub and good day
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