General > Beating a dead horse
Filtration in hot tubs
Chas:
--- Quote ---I hate to bring this up since it will probably go to the Dead Horse section anyway. Why is HS the only manufacturer to use No-Bypass? I'm not saying it's better or worse. Does HS hold Intellectual Property on this design? I would think at least one other company would grab on to it if it had merit. ???
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Every swimming pool has it. They, like HS figure that if you are going to be moving a lot of water then you might as well filter a lot of water.
I think many of the competitors would gladly jump onto no bypass if it weren't for the fact that HS gave it a name and sells the daylights out of it. So now, it would look like they are agreeing with HS and saying that bypassing the filter doesn't make sense.
Also - somebody suggested that it is not easy to accellerate the life-expectancy tests on a filter. I heard a rumor - just a rumor folks - that HS wore out a dishwasher in the testing lab trying to establish how many times a Tri-X could be cleaned before it began to show signs of wear. Doesn't sound like it was all that hard to figure that one out.
Chas:
It is funny to watch competitors try to reason this one away.
Sundance has it's disposable filters, and they will gladly tell a shopper why that is the best way to do things.
I have HS and Caldera on my floor, and I can attest to the fact that the HS are easier to keep clean. Same with Tiger River. And keep in mind that the Caldera tubs come on twice a day for a purge of the system and filtration. Yet the HS still stay cleaner and will recover from a wet test faster.
Say what you want, I believe that it is the better system. I have to run the Caldera for a couple of hours to equal the filtration that the ten-minute cycle gives on a HS.
salesdvl:
For me, it's not an issue about trying to say that HS is wrong or that their filtering system is not good. The issue, for me, continues to be the insinuations that HS has the only quality filtration. Their 100% No-Bypass filtration is just a feature. Thats it. A feature. Something to talk about during their presentation.
KarlXII:
Personally I think it might be a good thing to filter all the water, if possible, but it is probably not half (or less) as important as to keep your chemistry OK. The stuff that's dangerous for you doesn´t get stuck in the filter after all.
So for me 100% percent filtration was not a critical feature in deciding what tub to choose.
The water in my tub IS clean, so if it makes a turn in the jet pump and out again - so what?
salesdvl:
--- Quote --- Also - somebody suggested that it is not easy to accellerate the life-expectancy tests on a filter. I heard a rumor - just a rumor folks - that HS wore out a dishwasher in the testing lab trying to establish how many times a Tri-X could be cleaned before it began to show signs of wear. Doesn't sound like it was all that hard to figure that one out.
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I brought up the "accellerated testing". The example I thought of, but wasnt going to go into was the "bromine generator" Watkins swore was going to be the reatest thing ever. I remember they said they had doen all kinds of longevity testing and one of the big Wigs had it at his house for a few months and it was working great. I dont think it ever made it to production because it didnt work. They also did extensive "accellerated" testing on their first attempt at the chrome look jets a couple years ago and had to recall all of the ones that got shipped because they found the finish was pealing off.( and I was told that by the Watkins Rep.) I remember getting my Prodigy, unwrapping it, and being told that Watkins issued a statement not to let any of the chrome jet models go out that there was a problem with the jets. The same day I got the Prodigy, our service tech was out to change the jets back to the plastic kind. So, they may have worn out a dishwasher, and the tri-x may last forever, who knows.
My point was that there is no substitute for time.
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