General > Beating a dead horse
Those with home show questions...Heres your sign!!
stl-rex:
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Nice attempt at making this all about YOU stl-rex! ::)
There were more than a few manufacturers mentioned and all of it was true. Make peace with that and don't get your panties all in a bunch!!
Every manufactuer makes claims that can't be substanciated. Even Hydropool and I'd be the first to admit it.
Steve
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Hey, it's not about me. I don't sell spas and I don't live in an area he services. But I own a spa he enjoys taking shots at. As an owner who's in the spa nearly every day, I think I'm just as qualified or more so to talk about that brand against which he competes. He gets pissed because people like me and others speak favorably of their brand even though we "know nothing not having been in the business for years". Well people like me are an asset. We've just wet tested the latest and greatest competing models, formed an opinion, and share it. We are an alternative to the dealers whose agenda, however how noble, have an eye on the bottom line. Concede anything to a competitor and you may have lost a sale. It's so obvious at times.
I also think that if his opinions of his customers are accurate, he needs to find a new profession. No one should hold that much negative contempt for the people who keep their doors open.
My panties are unbunched - but thanks for reminding me to check them........... ;)
stuart:
Wow! I share some of the questions and conversations that I found funny, odd or misplaced and people here take it personal?
None of this is an attack on anyone....This was my weekend!
If some of you think this post was all about you, your spa, your position in the grand scheme of things and let it hurt your feelings you have some issues that you should probably deal with.
I know... try a rant!! How about the “stuarts picking on arctic rant” or the “stuarts grouchy and mean rant” or better yet “it’s all about me rant”?
I don't need a vacation, I need a place for a reality check and a place that I can vent somewhere and this forum was always that.
I'm not angry, I'm not depressed and I don't have a chip on my shoulder. On the contrary I rather enjoyed writing the last two posts and have had friends say they rather enjoyed reading them.
I hope you can understand that I'm not going to put an Arctic-bashing disclaimer on every post.... Funny, I always thought that if you got defensive over something it was because of a guilty conscience!
I met several great people this weekend! In fact, I think that I need someone else to work the show so that I can spend my time hobnobbing with customers, friends and acquaintances that seem to come by in droves.
I really enjoyed all of the young couples out spending time together because one of them just got back from Iraq.
I would not be in business without consumers and things would be boring if not for the colorfulness of human nature but in the words of Ron White "You just can't fix stupid!"
Disclaimer....I'm not calling anyone on this forum stupid, if comments on this post resemble any similarities to anyone here or anyone you know it is simply coincidental, no Arctic spas where damaged in typing this post, Ron Whites name was used without his permission
This has been brought to you by “Tired old spa warrior rants inc.”
Spatech_tuo:
--- Quote ---Every manufactuer makes claims that can't be substanciated. Even Hydropool and I'd be the first to admit it.
Steve
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Don't I know it. I saw them at a show and decided to check them out and the salesperson kept going on about how great their regional sales reps were and I was like "don't try to sell me swamp land, I know one of those MYTGEWFYCLEWS".
stuart:
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MYTGEWFYCLEWS".
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I have no clue what that is but I bet Steve is one of those..... ;) ;D
J._McD:
--- Quote ---We are a "deal oriented" society.
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This is so true and it is what Barnum's theory is structured on, "There is a sucker born every minute, and two to take his money."
Cars, boats, diamonds, real estate, bridges, swamp land, etc, for that matter anything that is bought or sold is subject to a dealing discussion, but here we are talking about Hot Tubs. It is the "deal" oriented sucker that that is a fool and gets sucked up by all the rebates that were too good to be true and they weren't. It is just tiring to see so many fools get sucked in and they think they know what they are doing.
It is really a great thing that ALL HOT TUBS are good, because those that have them enjoy them regardless of who made them or where they came from. The better the quality reputation of the manufacturer, harder and more dfficult it is to sell it at a show because every body is looking for a "deal" and only those who are good at manipulation do it best.
You heard Chas say it, you make a small fortune at a show that cost you a large fortune to be at, just to watch suckers circle the bait and get gobbled up by the sharks, while the honest and reputable educate them enough to make them feel capable of making any decision they can afford.
It is all about psychology and how to the game is played. Those that have ethics, morals and integrity just don't do well, while the moths fly into the flame and the lambs are led to the slaughter. It is really frustrating to watch for more than 20 years and hear their stories as they complain later. ::) :-/
It does seem that some are sensitive about their brands whether they sell them or bought them. Some are defensive, some are arrogant, some are happy and some are not.
For heavens sake it is only money, and it is all about the deal and the lowest bidder. Those that have it don't need to dicker. Those that don't shouldn't spend what they don't have, but that won't stop those who know how to take it.
Disclaimer, this is not intended to impugne any character, company, product, past, previous or future decisions. May you enjoy 100% of the choices you make in life, even if it is to sell Hot Tubs to a whole lot of nice people or buy a Hot Tub and enjoy your delight.
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